1. Johan Santana, Mets
2. Jake Peavy, Padres
3. Brandon Webb, Diamondbacks
4. Erik Bedard, Mariners
5. Cole Hamels, Phillies
6. Justin Verlander, Tigers
7. C.C. Sabathia, Indians
8. Roy Oswalt, Astros
9. Dan Haren, Diamondbacks
10. Josh Beckett, Red Sox
11. Aaron Harang, Reds
12. John Smoltz, Braves
13. Chris Young, Padres
14. Felix Hernandez, Mariners
15. Javier Vazquez, White Sox
16. Daisuke Matsuzaka, Red Sox
17. James Shields, Rays
18. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays
19. Rich Hill, Cubs
20. Pedro Martinez, Mets
21. Chad Billingsley, Dodgers
22. Tim Lincecum, Giants
23. Carlos Zambrano, Cubs
24. Ian Snell, Pirates
25. Yovani Gallardo, Brewers
26. Tim Hudson, Braves
27. Brett Myers, Phillies
28. Fausto Carmona, Indians
29. John Lackey, Angels
30. Scott Kazmir, Rays
31. Matt Cain, Giants
32. Ben Sheets, Brewers
33. John Maine, Mets
34. Francisco Liriano, Twins
35. Derek Lowe, Dodgers
36. Zack Greinke, Royals
37. Ted Lilly, Cubs
38. Adam Wainwright, Cardinals
39. Dustin McGowan, Blue Jays
40. A.J. Burnett, Blue Jays
41. Chien-Ming Wang, Yankees
42. Bronson Arroyo, Reds
43. Jeff Francis, Rockies
44. Brad Penny, Dodgers
45. Tom Gorzelanny, Pirates
46. Jered Weaver, Angels
47. Jeremy Bonderman, Tigers
48. Joe Blanton, A's
49. Greg Maddux, Padres
50. Phil Hughes, Yankees
51. Kevin Slowey, Twins
52. Gil Meche, Royals
53. Hiroki Kuroda, Dodgers
54. Scott Baker, Twins
55. Clay Buchholz, Red Sox
56. Rich Harden, A's
57. Andrew Sonnanstine, Rays
58. Mark Buehrle, White Sox
59. Shaun Marcum, Blue Jays
60. Andy Pettitte, Yankees


IDK how Slowey made the list

Yeah I don't see how guys like Buchholz and Sonnastine are top 60, and both ahead of Pettitte

3. Brandon Webb, Diamondbacks
11. Aaron Harang, Reds
30. Scott Kazmir, Rays
31. Matt Cain, Giants
42. Bronson Arroyo, Reds
58. Mark Buehrle, White Sox

That's who I have.

Lol Kazmir behind Dice-K? Bonderman behind #41-46? LOLZ

Why are you so high on Bonderman. He's average

He's a great pitcher.

Why don't u marry him then, huh? :angry: :angry:

I have him in a keeper league, and a Dynasty league. That's as close as I could get to him.

He sure as hell hasn't proved that yet...

He's proved it many times when his elbow was fully healthy. But hey, if you wanna go by his 5+ ERA from last year, someone else is gonna enjoy a mid 3's ERA from him in 2008.

I'm also looking at his career 4.78 ERA and his career ERA+ of 93. Until he can actually put up a good year, to me he isn't a great pitcher.

Because career stats are the best indication of how good a pitcher is right? Seeing as your a White Sox fan, you should be more high on Bonderman than I am given he's pitched against you many times.

Anyways, Bonderman's elbow was fucked up last year, and I don't see anything out of line from what happend since he had something like a 40IP increase in workload from 05 to 06.

But whatever, argueing here is pointless. Bonderman is a beast, his slider is arguebly the best from any RHP in baseball, except for Joba.

I have

1. Johan Santana
11. Aaron Harang
22. Tim Lincecum
25. Yovani Gallardo
28. Fausto Carmona
35. Derek Lowe
42. Bronson Arroyo

I knew it.

I knew your new name wouldn't last.

I got sick of cathy calling me a dickhead over aim about it. :mellow:

lol she always tells me to get on aim

Uh huh.

On Bonderman: To be fair his career ERA is inflated due to the Tigers calling him up way too young. He was good in the minors but he wasn't 'go directly from high A to the bigs as a 20 year old' good.