Right now i would have no faith in Daisuke in a playoff game. He has been in such a slump of things of late it will be hard to rely on him. But he's the best option for the Sox number 3. Beckett is the best pitcher out of the group, Wang isn't too far behind. Both Clemens and Schilling big game pitchers and still got enough to show up and help their respective teams win big games. Pettite's got big game experience. Basically in ranking the pitchers for the a playoff series it would go: 1. Beckett, 2. Wang 3. Schilling/Clemens, 5. Pettite 6. Daisuke. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have the Yankees big three.

I am going to have to agree on this one. Right now, looking @ that list, I would much rather have the Yankees 3 + Beckett.

Yankees for sure.

I like the Yankees top 2, better but the top 3 is close. I'll give the edge to the yankees. Questions marks surrond Clemens, DiKe and Schilling though. Neither team has the best 1-2-3 punch among the playoffs hopefuls.

Sox to be different.

If we're talking playoffs, then the Yankees have the better 3 by FAR. Wang is a stud and Pettitte/Clemens are huge in the postseason.

Jake Peavy- Chris Young- Greg Maddux

Expect to see Clay Buchholz in the postseason if either Matsuzaka or Wakefield struggle.

haha dike

boston...

seriously, bias aside...

beckett > wang

schilling has a 3.35 ERA and has gone 6 innings in every start since he got off the DL, while clemens has a 4.45 ERA.

Dice-K has been horrible lately so I'll say Pettitte > DiceK.

Ehh, i dont know if I saw a game was going to be Clemens vs Schilling if I'd be happy I was on Schillings side.

Now that I think about it, it would be a toss up when you're talking post season.

Beckett and Pettitte have both come up huge for their teams in the post season so it's a tossup.

Schilling and Clemens have both come up huge for their teams in the post season so it's a tossup.

Wang only has 2 career post season starts and Dice-K has none so it's a tossup here as well.

Still. Pettites been good in the postseason many more times than Beckett, Becketts been to one postseason, which was good, but can you compaire his postseasons to Pettites? Same For Clemens vs Schilling. And DiceK has no experience as you said, and Wangs only poastseason loss he gave up 1 Run.

C) Blue Jays

It's close. Playoffs then its down to the wire. Regular season at this point I would take Schill and Beckett over the rocket and wang. DiceK loses to Pettite though, but I doubt he stays in his current state.

I voted yankees by mistake.

postseason, whatever. I'm saying the Sox big 3 are better...not just playoffs.

If you go with the Red Sox over the Yankees for the post season, you are officially out of your mind.

Well, first, if we are talking Postseason, lets compare all 6 pitcher's postseason numbers.

Andy Pettitte
14-9, 4.08 ERA, in 34 starts.

Roger Clemens
12-8, 3.66 ERA, in 34 games, 33 starts.

Chien-Ming Wang
1-1, 2.70 ERA, in 2 starts


Josh Beckett
2-2, 2.11 ERA, in 6 games, 5 starts

Curt Schilling
8-2, 2.06 ERA, in 15 starts

Dice-K
0-0. 0.00 ERA, in 0 Starts

So, I'd say if the match ups were Beckett/Pettitte, Schilling/Clemens, and Dice-K/Wang, I'd go:

Becket < Pettitte

Schilling >< Clemens

Dice-K < Wang

I can't decide between Clemens and Schilling. Both have amazing postseason numbers. Although I may give the edge to Clemens, since a vast majority of Schilling's numbers came in '01, when he had a brilliant postseason with the D'Backs, dominating, especially against the Yankees.

Why? Have the games all been rigged? :unsure:

If the Red Sox and Yankees both make the ALDS--as I expect that they both will--I'd expect each to have about a one-in-eight chance of winning the World Series.

Pettite won't be Mr. October this year.

The Red Sox are not a shoe-in to be in the ALCS. They were 4-2 against Clevland this season, but the they only out scored them 20-16. But with their big three, I see them going to the ALCS anyway.

As for the Yankees. They were 3-6 against the Angels. But, I still see that they have a small chance to beat the Angels. The pitching is obviously in favor of the Halo's, putting all Postseason Numbers aside. The only way that they can win is if they have timely pitching, and if A-Rod shows up this October. But, if they face Cleveland, which is unlikely that they will finish with a better record then the Angels, we'd probably make it to the ALCS. The Yankees were 6-0 against Cleveland.

And if it came down to Yankees/Red Sox in the ALCS, I can't really tell who would walk away victorious. The past two ALCS that they have had have been back and forth series, which is what I'd expect for it.

um...what? how do you figure pettitte > beckett and schilling = clemens when beckett and schilling have clearly been better? Lol, you laid out the stats and then made the counter argument...

Yeah, I guess I should be going with a 4.08, 3.66 and 2.7 ERA over a 2.06, 2.11, and no experience...yeah, I'm out of my mind...if you think the Yankees are better, that's reasonable...if you think I'm out of my mind for taking the red sox here, you're an idiot....

Thats the best...

But the yanks have it over the redsoxs. I reather have a couple of savy vets in the playoffs over dice-k and theres now telling if shillings arm willl hold up..

so...Schilling's arm won't hold up but Clemens' will? oook....

Exactly. And if DiceK or Schilling have any problems, we have the depth to survive. Bucholz is available for us.

The way its going to be set up, rotation wise is going to be

Beckett vs Pettitte. I personally wouldn't want anyone other than Pettitte on the mound between both teams.

DiKe vs Wang, I'll go with the Wang

Schilling vs Clemens, I don't know to be honest. It really depends how Clemens elbow is and we'll find out in a few days.

I think we'll see whose is better in the ALCS though.

If you beat the Angels.

Beckett hasn't even pitched in the post season since 2003, Dike has no experience, but Schilling is pretty good.

Wang=pitched last two years in post season and did pretty good.
Clemens=pitched in the playoffs seven times in the last eight playoffs while pitching better later on in the playoffs.
Pettitte=Has tons of post season experience while pitching pretty decent. He also pitches better later on in the post season.

Schilling and Beckett have led their teams to World series, both of which occured more recently then the yankees last World Series win.

And you seem to think that a Pettite or Clemens could have gone 0-10 this year and still dominate in the playoffs because of their past.

Clemens and Pettite aren't what they used to be pitching-wise. Just because they have great pasts doesn't mean shit. You could say the same thing for Schilling too.

Right now, pitching wise

Beckett>Wang
Clemens<Schilling
DiceK<Pettite

And thats how its gonna be in the postseason as well if they play each other. The DiceK-Pettite could be very close if DiceK can shift a little better to the MLB.

it's not just postseason you look at. beckett has been the best pitcher out of all these guys this yr, easily.

I guess ktf does too.

Angles v.s. Indians=ALCS

Player hater.

Angels vs. Tigers = ALDS

Actually, Angels vs Indians = Given Lass And Sin B)

Woah!!!! Are you saying Becketts better than Pettite based on those numbers? He has 30 more postseason starts than Beckett, and becketts not even over .500 in postseason.

Looking at those numbers made me see how much of a landslide this really is. Schilling is the only ones whose close matched up next to Clemens, but Clemens would still be my choice to ride behind. And DiceK has never played in the post season, and you can't say anything about Wangs experience, because he has just as much as Beckett does, but sooner, so if you question Wangs experience, you throw your whole argument out.

Pettite over Beckett
Wang over DiceK
Clemens push Schilling

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Who cares about the past records. The fact is Beckett is the best pitcher out of these guys and is over Pettite right now. Wang has DiceK and Clemens-Schill is a toss up.

Best pitcher this year.