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Title: Schuerholz or Minaya?


braveschopbraves - September 23, 2006 01:59 AM (GMT)
Better GM?

Santana - September 23, 2006 02:01 AM (GMT)
whos schurllezssasfdasf

TheHugeUnit - September 23, 2006 02:01 AM (GMT)
John Schuerholz i guess. Omar takes shots in the dark really

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 02:02 AM (GMT)
Minaya by a looooong shot. Valentin, Maine, Chavez, El Duque, Oliver, Mota, Williams etc.

terrorist of sports - September 23, 2006 02:06 AM (GMT)
^^ etc etc etc

minaya..

KeepTheFaith - September 23, 2006 02:08 AM (GMT)
Schuerholz...he develops his players and makes hella smart moves while Minaya just spends a load of money and hopes it works.

Santana - September 23, 2006 02:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Santana @ Sep 22 2006, 10:01 PM)
whos schurllezssasfdasf

ANSWER THIS QUESTION!!

KeepTheFaith - September 23, 2006 02:10 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Santana @ Sep 22 2006, 09:08 PM)
ANSWER THIS QUESTION!!

braves GM

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 02:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (KeepTheFaith @ Sep 22 2006, 10:08 PM)
Schuerholz...he develops his players and makes hella smart moves while Minaya just spends a load of money and hopes it works.

Ummm no read my post above

braveschopbraves - September 23, 2006 02:14 AM (GMT)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 02:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

braveschopbraves - September 23, 2006 02:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 02:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Yeah and who was the GM for the Mets? Not Omar.

The goal of every team is the world series. Not winning the division and choking.

KeepTheFaith - September 23, 2006 02:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 09:12 PM)
Ummm no read my post above

Yeah and how many times has Minaya missed?

BCB- don't forget Wright

KeepTheFaith - September 23, 2006 02:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Yeah and who was the GM for the Mets? Not Omar.

The goal of every team is the world series. Not winning the division and choking.

And the Braves have won more over the last 15 years :huh:

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 02:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (KeepTheFaith @ Sep 22 2006, 10:19 PM)
Yeah and how many times has Minaya missed?

BCB- don't forget Wright

What? :huh:

TheHugeUnit - September 23, 2006 02:22 AM (GMT)
The old Mets GM should be shot and burned, Trading away Bay and Kazmir. Who was he steve phillips? because that would answer a lot of the smack talk he talks on BT

braveschopbraves - September 23, 2006 02:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:18 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Yeah and who was the GM for the Mets? Not Omar.

The goal of every team is the world series. Not winning the division and choking.

But Schuerholz was the GM of a team that had 14 consecutive winning seasons

So if the Mets don't win the World Series this year they were a failure?

Of course the goal is to win the world series, but it's a lot of luck. It's a 5 game series..... you can't tell how good a team is in that long.... the Pirates swept the Mets in 3 games, anyone can win a series in baseball.... Royals swept the Red Sox, etc.....

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 02:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (KeepTheFaith @ Sep 22 2006, 10:20 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Yeah and who was the GM for the Mets? Not Omar.

The goal of every team is the world series. Not winning the division and choking.

And the Braves have won more over the last 15 years :huh:

You are missing the point. Minaya has been on the Mets for 2 years. You can't count the years before.

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 02:26 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:22 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:18 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Yeah and who was the GM for the Mets? Not Omar.

The goal of every team is the world series. Not winning the division and choking.

But Schuerholz was the GM of a team that had 14 consecutive winning seasons

So if the Mets don't win the World Series this year they were a failure?

Of course the goal is to win the world series, but it's a lot of luck. It's a 5 game series..... you can't tell how good a team is in that long.... the Pirates swept the Mets in 3 games, anyone can win a series in baseball.... Royals swept the Red Sox, etc.....

Agreed.

But, I bet you, it won't take 14 years for Minaya to win 1 World Series.

The World Series is luck? Tell that to the Yankees.

KeepTheFaith - September 23, 2006 02:31 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 09:20 PM)
QUOTE (KeepTheFaith @ Sep 22 2006, 10:19 PM)
Yeah and how many times has Minaya missed?

BCB- don't forget Wright

What? :huh:

Jaret Wright...

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 02:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
Yeah and how many times has Minaya missed?

No this

terrorist of sports - September 23, 2006 03:04 AM (GMT)
Okay. in theory the 116 is better because of more wins, but technically the winning of the world series makes you the best in the league. it just means the real best team had bad time or something...



DrunkenTiger - September 23, 2006 03:06 AM (GMT)
Minaya.. I don't know about what he did in the Expos but he sure did a fabulous job on the Mets. Trading Seo for Duaner Sanchez was another thing and getting all those star players was his key to success.

NateFizzle - September 23, 2006 03:03 PM (GMT)
My answer is the Braves GM for winning the division for the past 15 years.

And I agree with MetsRule that the best team in baseball wins the World Series. Beating the best teams in baseball compared to padding wins against the Royals is a better way to determine which teams are for real.

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 06:04 PM (GMT)
Did you trash it?

Crushed Optimism - September 23, 2006 06:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Yeah and who was the GM for the Mets? Not Omar.

The goal of every team is the world series. Not winning the division and choking.

Since when does choking have anything to do with the GM?

Mets Rule - September 23, 2006 06:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Crushed Optimism @ Sep 23 2006, 02:08 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Yeah and who was the GM for the Mets? Not Omar.

The goal of every team is the world series. Not winning the division and choking.

Since when does choking have anything to do with the GM?

You weren't here for the entire debate.

braveschopbraves - September 23, 2006 06:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Crushed Optimism @ Sep 23 2006, 11:08 AM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 09:18 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Mets Rule @ Sep 22 2006, 07:15 PM)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 22 2006, 10:14 PM)
Tim Hudson
Sheffield for Brian Jordan and O'Dalis Perez
Matt Diaz for nothing
Wickman (ERA under 1 as a Brave) for an A catcher
Getting Estrada for Millwood
great farm team...
and putting together a winning team for 14 straight years

And how many World Series?

Braves 1
Mets 0

anyway, what measures how good a team is better? a 5 game division series or 162 games?

Yeah and who was the GM for the Mets? Not Omar.

The goal of every team is the world series. Not winning the division and choking.

Since when does choking have anything to do with the GM?

yeah check the other poll, it was split cause it was off topic

Marlinschamps03 - September 23, 2006 06:22 PM (GMT)
I'd say the Braves GM has done a better job. Mets did well at cashing in on the Marlins firesale this year for sure and managed not to give up Pelfrey and Milledge to us. But winning 14 years in a row says something about a GM. I know Minaya hasn't been with the Mets long but that shouldn't down the fact of the 14 division titles the Braves won. The Braves have also usually had some good talent in their minor leagues as well.

PAUL KONERKO 14 - September 23, 2006 06:24 PM (GMT)
Schuerholz for sure, he's given his team 14 straight division outings (if he was the GM during all those years.)

braveschopbraves - September 23, 2006 06:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Marlinschamps03 @ Sep 23 2006, 11:22 AM)
I'd say the Braves GM has done a better job. Mets did well at cashing in on the Marlins firesale this year for sure and managed not to give up Pelfrey and Milledge to us. But winning 14 years in a row says something about a GM. I know Minaya hasn't been with the Mets long but that shouldn't down the fact of the 14 division titles the Braves won. The Braves have also usually had some good talent in their minor leagues as well.

Exactly, JS came in 1991, turned the last place 1990 team into the NL Champions, but didn't destroy the future, they won the next 14 years... plus the Braves never had a payroll over 100 million

Marlinschamps03 - September 23, 2006 06:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (braveschopbraves @ Sep 23 2006, 01:25 PM)
Exactly, JS came in 1991, turned the last place 1990 team into the NL Champions, but didn't destroy the future, they won the next 14 years... plus the Braves never had a payroll over 100 million

Exactly, he's another guy who knows how to make a non Sox/Yankees payroll team competitive year in and out.

Mets Rule - October 2, 2006 12:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Marlinschamps03 @ Sep 23 2006, 02:22 PM)
I'd say the Braves GM has done a better job. Mets did well at cashing in on the Marlins firesale this year for sure and managed not to give up Pelfrey and Milledge to us. But winning 14 years in a row says something about a GM. I know Minaya hasn't been with the Mets long but that shouldn't down the fact of the 14 division titles the Braves won. The Braves have also usually had some good talent in their minor leagues as well.

Then how do you say Larry Banifest is the best GM in Baseball?

Mets Rule - October 2, 2006 12:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Marlinschamps03 @ Sep 23 2006, 02:27 PM)
Exactly, he's another guy who knows how to make a non Sox/Yankees payroll team competitive year in and out.

Mets have 97 wins, and the Yankees have 97 wins.

Mets have half the payroll.

Crz4mets2 - October 2, 2006 01:50 PM (GMT)
Jim Duquette, That Kazmir trade was great. ;)

Haha

I'm a Mets fan so I have to go with Minaya.

braveschopbraves - October 3, 2006 10:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Crz4mets2 @ Oct 2 2006, 06:50 AM)
I'm a Mets fan so I have to go with Minaya.

Good points made there




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